Re: Re: Good old days

Augusta ME

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You're correct, I am referring also to the days when democrats were also just people that republicans disagreed with. And back when there was a common goal to compromise on most issues. But your other analogies are a false equivalence, even though they're popular comparisons by far right apologists. Nor am I talking about "rightist organizations" vs "leftist organizations" - there will always be groups, across the entire spectrum from far left to far right, with extremists at either side doing unacceptable things, none of which are justified by what the other extreme is doing. I'm talking about formal political parties. Democrats have never aligned themselves with BLM or antifa, nor vice vice-versa, and in fact Democrats have repudiated the extremes of these groups. That can't be said of Trumplican Republicans and far right groups. BLM and antifa are also not, functionally or formally, the far left of the Democratic party, even if they're leftist organizations (which probably can't even be said of BLM). Nor do they act or organize themselves as para-military militias. And you've never heard Biden telling BLM or antifa to "stand by" to act in case Democrats don't get their way, or don't win an election. Likewise there is no "selective application of the laws when it comes to democrats vs. republicans". That's pure nonsense. It's completely wrong and false to say "democrats stormed the US Capitol (Oct 2018)" - that wasn't "Democrats", as a political party, those people aren't "the democrats", nor even are they a political party at all (and I also don't have to "call the protest of Jan 6th an attempted overthrow and lock up all of the insurrectionists that trespassed at the Capitol": non-Trumplican Republican after non-Trumplican Republican *themselves* are calling it that, and stating straight out that the whole "stop the steal" was actually an attempted coup by Trump and his cronies). Nor were the people of October 2018 attempting to overthrow the duly elected government and put someone else in power. There's a huge difference between what the groups were doing in the 2 cases you try to say are equivalent, and they're not even close to the same thing, even if in both cases there was violence or disruption of day to day activities there shouldn't have been. And while it's true "It is not the republicans that are marching outside of the Justice's homes," it's also not "the Democrats", either. None of these things were actions by a political party like January 6 was You say, "You weren't screaming when Antifa and BLM burned down city blocks during the summer of 2020 causing damages to businesses and federal buildings", but actually that's not true. I thought there was nothing acceptable about that. However I also don't think that what took place rises to the same level as trying to outright overthrow the duly elected government that was chosen and preferred by the majority of Americans. You end with, "The Nazis were the ones that limited speech, the Nazis were the ones that seized guns, the Nazis were the ones that packed the courts, the Nazis were the ones that fixed the elections." Democrats haven't done any of those things either. Trumplicans however, acting as and in the name of Republicans, supported by private militias and paramilitary (of which no such thing exists on the left) just tried to violently overthrow the duly elected goverment and prevent the peaceful and orderly transfer of power. Trumplicans also are very actively working to fix future elections by sneaking flunkies into elected office, who will do the party's, or one person's, bidding, in preference to fulfilling their oaths of office, which no true Republican or true patriot would ever have found acceptable. And hardly any actual (vs Trumplicans, who are in fact the "RINO"s) public-facing Republicans at the time stood up or spoke out to reject or oppose this, even though there were many silent heros working to foil it internally. The Democrats are not "the left", way you (and the Republicans have come to) use the term "the left", any more than Republicans are the extremist right. However currently the extremist right and the Trumplicans have become an ascendant and even dominant part of the Republican party (which is not at all the case with the Democrats and the extremist left), and the Republican party isn't doing much about this, and is very much in danger of becoming the extremist right, if they don't grow some balls and reject that toxicity (which, aided by para- miltaries and political violence - including assassinations - "hang Mike Pence"?) is how the Nazis rose to power as well.