Where's the evidence?

Troy MI

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I don't really care about Russia. I don't give two sh!ts about Russia if I'm being honest. You went into this thinking I cared about Russia and acted accordingly, meaning you entirely missed my point. What I care about is objectivity. That means, we don't believe things without good quality supporting evidence. "Mueller was a deep state thug" - OK - Where's the evidence for this? "They found nothing" - I just told you - email transcripts place Trump Jr as a willing recipient of foreign intelligence. That's evidence. One example of many. "The justice department and crooked judges broke numerous laws yet no one was charged with a crime." - What specific laws were broken and who broke them? A google search yielded nothing. Hell, maybe I'm not "well informed" - I have no desire to become an expert on the Russia probe as a whole. but I'll happily accept discussion of snippets that can be verified with reputable sources. BUT, I will never accept hand waiving. I have zero tolerance for unverifiable conspiracy in debate. None of our politicians are saints, Trump included. His campaign members included. On one hand, you have a grand conspiracy by the "deep state" to bring Trump down, and we can't give you good quality verifiable evidence because the "deep state" covered it up, of course. On the other hand, you have monkey business by members of the Trump team. A 3rd option, the truth could also lie somewhere in the middle. Options 2 and 3 seem plausible to a reasonable person. Option 1 only seems plausible to a Trump fanboy or hyperpartisan. Again, I don't give two sh!ts about the Russia probe. I wasn't even into politics back when that was happening. It's just what you chose to bring up with me, in your whataboutism to object to my post about my absolute disdain for conspiracy. And you fired back with more and more unverifiable conspiracy. Sorry but that's the truth. " I find that even communicating with some liberals, I can usually glean a bit of information that might give me pause for thought. Sad to say, but my interaction with you is has been a complete waste of my time." I supported republicans pre-trump. Not in a partisan sense but in a pragmatic one - I had reason to, my business at the time was in an overregulated industry. Go ahead, just assume everyone who hates the current conspiracy climate is a "liberal". Do I support liberals now? YES! Absolutely. And conspiracy is 100% the reason. When people are willing to jump through extraordinary mental hoops to justify their continued support of their Fürer, I nope-right-outta that party ASAP. That's just plain dangerous. Conspiracy theories are more or less the reason I voted for Biden. I would not have voted for Trump if I'm being honest, but I would have at least continued my political apathy and sat this election out if I did not feel there was a rabid base of enablers willing let Trump do whatever the f he wanted.